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08.04.202523:04
SS — Pagan Graves?

No. We need to understand Himmler to understand the context of the graves and the pre-Christian [although not many] elements of the SS.

— Hans Schmidt, SS Panzergrenadier, p. 43:

“Within a little more than two years after being appointed as the Reichsfuhrer or national commander of the SS, Heinrich Himmler had managed to enlarge his organization to about 30,000 men. No mean feat for anybody. He also imbued his order with a mythology combining Germanic (pre-Christian) rites, a strict adherence to racial laws and unquestioned fealty to Adolf Hitler.” [1]

Read 'SS Defender Against Bolshevism' to understand the context of the graves and the other ancient traditions. They considered the graves to be ancient Germanic graves, they didn't see them as pagan. NS Heathenry seems to don't understand this basic concept.

Here's another example of this, in SS Defender Against Bolshevism, Germanic Law:

“Ancient Germanic law prevented any unauthorized individual from destroying anything in nature that is holy for all men and created by God. Until relatively recent times it was forbidden in Germanic settlements to cut down a tree within the village without the agreement of the other peasants. If a tree was cut down, this was tied to the obligation to plant three new young trees.” [2]

Heathen/pagan law Ancient Germanic Law. Also read the 'Faith in God' chapter:

The answer is: “We swear to you, Adolf Hitler, as führer and chancellor of the German Reich, loyalty and courage. We promise you and the superiors designated by you obedience unto death. So help us GOD!
The second question is: “So you believe in a God?”
The answer is: “Yes, I believe in a God!
The third question is: “What do you think of a person who does not
believe in God?”
The answer is: “I consider him arrogant, megalomaniac and dumb. He is not suited for us.
I have informed you of these three questions and answers in order to clearly present our stand on religion. Be assured that we would not be able to form such an ironclad corps, if we did not have conviction and faith in a God who stands over us, who has created us, our fatherland, our folk and the earth, and who has sent us our Führer. We are piously convinced that in accordance with the eternal laws of this earth we must stand by every deed, every word and every thought. Everything that our mind thinks up, our tongue speaks and our hand carries out does not stop with its execution, rather it is a cause that will have an effect, an inescapable course that will return to us and our folk as a blessing or as a curse. Believe me, people with this stance are anything but atheists. We refuse to allow ourselves to be slandered as atheists - through misuse of the term PAGAN - simply because we as a community do not embrace a particular denomination or dogma or demand this from any of our men. We allow ourselves the right and the freedom to draw a sharp and distinct line between religious/church/denominational activity and political/world-view soldiery, and we will fiercely combat any violation. Likewise, we teach our men - despite much justified outrage and many bad experiences that our folk has had in this area in the past - to respect everything that is holy to any folk comrade - due to his education and conviction - without any insult in word or deed. [Ibid]


They recognized these graves as ancient traditions of their people, not as pagan graves. It was entirely under a different context. And also: the SS refused to the idea that they were atheist, and view the term "pagan" as an insult. Drawing a sharp and distinct line between religious/church/denominational activity and political/world-view soldiery

You can still find Christians celebrating their nations ancient traditions (not worship of old deities), practically all over Europe. This doesn't make them heathens or anti-Christians.

Source:
[1] Hans Schmidt, SS Panzergrenadier, p. 43
[2] SS Defender Against Bolshevism, pp. 7, 19.
10.04.202522:16
The Reichsführer-ᛋᛋ Personal Staff
Berlin, January 31, 1940

Attached, I am sending, on behalf of the Reichsführer-ᛋᛋ, a Bible dating from the 13th century, which was secured during the occupation of the Catholic seminary in Płock.

The Reichsführer-ᛋᛋ requests that this Bible be restored as necessary since he intends to keep it in the library of Monestary Wewelsburg. Please inform me when the Bible is finished and available for dispatch. On behalf of

ᛋᛋ-Hauptsturmführer
The NSDAP's four-point plan to curb Evola's influence in Germany

A 1937 investigation by the SS into Baron Evola concluded the following:

"There exist no grounds for National Socialism to place itself at the disposal of Baron Evola. His political plans for a Romano-Germanic Imperium are of a utopian character and moreover very apt to cause ideological confusions. Since Evola is also only tolerated and barely supported by Fascism, it is tactically not necessary to accommodate his tendencies from our side. It is therefore recommended to:

1. NOT SUPPORT EVOLA'S CURRENT EFFORTS for the establishment of a secret supra-national order and the founding of a magazine directed toward this goal.

2. CURB HIS PUBLIC ACTIVITIES in
Germany after this lecture series, without taking any
special measures.

3. PREVENT HIS FURTHER PENETRATION into leading offices of the party and the state.

4. OBSERVE HIS PROPAGANDA ACTIVITY in neighboring countries.

In a short letter (AR/83) dated August 8, 1938, it then says laconically: "The Reichsfuhrer-SS has acknowledged the report regarding the lectures of Baron Evola and is in full agreement with the thoughts and recommendations stated in the last paragraph thereof."

Citations:
1. Personal staff of the Reichsführer-SS (file AR/126)
2. Personal staff of the Reichsführer-SS (AR/83)
3. Men Among the Ruins by Julius Evola, pp.63-64
06.04.202521:39
Reinhard Heydrich was a devout Catholic

"In 1936 he (Reinhard Heydrich)
surprised me by confessing that he had left the Church. And at that moment I also confessed my sin to him. However, he left the Church for a completely different reason than I did. Despite our evangelical wedding, he remained a Catholic.
In his official or work activities, he encountered political Catholicism."

Lina Heidrich
Leben mit einem Kriegsverbrecher
pp 57-58
30.03.202521:22
The "Ns Heathenry" channel has once again cited sources without apparently reading or understanding their content. Regarding the "Mein Kampf" chapter, we have already provided a thorough refutation and explanation of its meaning. [1] [2]

As for the "Table Talks", you have once again relied on an unreliable source and misrepresented Mikael Nilsson’s book to make it appear as though they are credible. Now, let’s expose the truth you are trying to conceal.

When Mikael Nilsson says that Table Talks could only be used if confirmed by other independent sources, he did not mean using similar quotes always from the same source, i.e., Table Talks itself, to confirm their reliability. Nilsson meant that it is necessary to use external and independent sources that confirm the quotes from Table Talks.

Furthermore, what you have shown is a clear example of a probable manipulation of the notes by Martin Bormann. In fact, in a speech at the Platterhof to generals and officers on May 26, 1944, Hitler addresses the theme of violence in Christianity but first states that he "DOES NOT DEFEND AN ANTI-CHRISTIAN PRINCIPLE." [3]

This means that when Hitler refers to violence in Christianity, he is not being critical in any way and cannot be interpreted as such.

Furthermore, Nilsson demonstrated that these Table Talks cannot be considered as Hitler's actual words and that, moreover, the notes from these conversations were edited by Bormann himself:

The idea that the Table Talks contain Hitler's words
as they were actually spoken to his entourage in the various military HQs during the war must, as a result, be considered to have been conclusively disproven. The table talks are not that kind of sources, since they, contrary to what has been assumed by prior research, were not the product of stenographic notes. Instead, they were re-constructed entirely from memory, and sometimes partly from so-called supporting words. Heim's proof pages show that they were not only edited later on – text was added, taken out, or moved around – and sometimes finished long after the date on them. [...]
This means that they are not Hitler's words and that they cannot, and should not, be quoted as such. [4]
So, in conclusion, when Hitler refers to the relationship between violence and Christianity, he is not making a critique of it. The only instance where this appears to happen is in the "Table Talks", but as demonstrated, these are unreliable and contradict other sources that can be considered reliable.

SOURCE:
[1] Hitler Mein Kampf 1
[2] Hitler Mein Kampf 2
[3] Hitler's Speech 26 May 1944
[4] Hitler Redux Page 384
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10.04.202522:12
Purium

"The BIBLE gives us one of the historical examples of the radical annihilation of an Aryan folk by Bolshevik-Jewish methods. Read this a part of Jewish history where it is written that the Jews were distributed among the Persians, in all cities and villages and in the capitol Sufa. The Aryan Persians recognized the danger posed by these Jews. The will to solve the Jewish question in Persia was personified by Minister Haman. The king, who the Bible calls Ahasveros but who was really Xeres, was separated from his Persian wife Basthi by the extremely clever intrigue of the court Jews. The king was influenced by Jewish girls, especially by the Jewish harlot Esther."

— SS defender against Bolshevism by Heinrich Himmler

@NSHeathenry
29.03.202523:37
—On this point it is fundamental to state: in every age and among all peoples there were upheavals in the religious field;
one will not want to deny the right of our time to be allowed to seek a belief in God that is in our nature." - page 24
"
The claim that many lodges are Christian is also a deception. Proof: Wherever the Masons have gained political power, they have acted violently against Christianity. [...] so with the Freemasons Lenin, Trotsky and Stalin in Russia." - page 102
Léon Degrelle, our previous source, was also mentioned in these leaflets - quoted and praised.

Himmler's theology may be a bit flawed (primarily regarding the OT), but he is clearly FAR from any sort of "heathenry" at this point.

In the leaflets we see NO MENTION of "Waralda/Wralda" or any similar nonsense.

Himmler also advocated for releasing Christian clergy "in one case or another", who were interned mostly for their work against the state, as shown by a document from 1945.

Apart from these writings, we also have physical examples one can see even today - the amount of Christian art kept in the Wewelsburg monastery:

"Photographs taken at Himmler's Wewelsburg SS Monastery by Damian Entwistle, decor found in Himmler's main rooms;

- Statue of
Martin Luther
- Statue of St. Anthony of Padua
- Two statues of the Virgin Mary and the Child
- Large crucifix removed from Himmlers bedroom
- Large bust of Saint Augustine

A Holy Lance was also discovered on Himmler’s desk; it was found broken. Later, it was restored to its original form."

If Himmler really commited to this idea of "replacing" Christianity, wouldn't he have atleast started with his own castle?

Conclusion: Himmler apostasized from Christianity, but through the help of Léon Degrelle (and perhaps others which we do not know of — for example Himmler's cousin, a high ranking SS man and Catholic theologian) he was brought back to the faith.

NOTE: Not a SINGLE source on this post is derived from the site "Mourning the Ancient", due to it's questionable imagery and lack of audio recorded interviews. This is not to say that the interviews there are falsificates, but all the sources used here are independent and can be backed up.

I also decided to avoid using any images of Himmler at churches/cathedrals, since this can also be written off as merely "political" in nature.

God bless!
10.04.202522:16
FAIL

This quote is not a direct attack on Christianity or the Bible. Rather, Himmler references a biblical episodthe story of Esther—to construct a narrative about the so-called Jewish threat, in line with typical National Socialist ideology. The Bible is used as a historical source to support the idea that Jews have conspired against “Aryan” peoples since ancient times, in this case, the Persians. The intent is not to criticize the Christian religion, but to use a religious text to illustrate the Nationalsocialist vision of the “Jewish threat.” For this reason, reading the quote as an anti-Christian statement is misleading; therefore your interpretation represents a fundamental misreading of the quotation and a desperate attempt to twist his words.

Furthermore, it is known that Himmler had a particular fascination with the Bible, to the extent that he ordered the restoration of a 13th-century Bible to be kept at Wewelsburg Castle. [1]

In conclusion, with this post that you believed supported your argument, you have in fact demonstrated the opposite—showing how the Bible was actually central to Himmler’s life, as evidenced by his extensive knowledge of it and his inclusion of a biblical story in one of his most important theoretical writings.

SOURCE:
[1] NS 19/601
02.04.202515:30
SOURCES:
I (nr.1)
[1] Tomberg, F., Das Christentum ..., pp. 14, 115.
[2] Ibid., p. 17.
[3] Ibid., p. 64. The quality of this source has only recently been established.
[4] Ibid., p. 31.
[5]
Cristianity in Hitler’s Ideology, p. 34. (The book can be found in PDF on our Telegram, where the link takes you to.)
[6]
Christ on the Crooked Cross, Part I, p. 33.



II (nr.2)
[1]
Tomberg, F., Das Christentum in Hitlers Weltanschauung, p. 127. Tomberg gets himself into trouble with this interpretation and claims that there was something very paradoxical about Hitler, who, in an effort to save Germany from the damaging effects of Christianity, was forced to portray himself as a true Christian and as a follower of Christ (ibid., p. 131). But with the interpretation presented in this book, there is no paradox to explain. It makes perfect sense.
[2] RSA IV/1, pp. 141–144, 148–149 (Documents 36 and 38).
See also Tomberg, F., Das Christentum ..., p. 125.
[3] RSA IV/1, p. 159 (Document 39).
[4] See, e.g.,
Dierker, W., Himmlers Glaubenskrieger ...
[5] HRP I/1, p. 114 (June 22, 1932).


{This can also be found in "Christianity in Hitler's Ideology'' by Mikael Nilsson'' if you cannot find the sources}
Claim
:
“H. Picker manuscripts are genuine...”

— Mikael Nilsson actually said it:

“[1] In this chapter I have investigated the publication of Tischgespräche and pointed out a number of source-critical problems with this text and its history. Tisch gespräche was very controversial from the outset, and both the IfZ and Gerhard Ritter faced a lot of criticism for having agreed to publish it. [...] I have shown that Picker made a large number of changes to the text compared to the version published in 1951. The changes are, on the one hand, minor, but on the other hand major in their implications. They show that Picker did not shy away from putting words in Hitler’s mouth even long after the events and statements that his notes record. The fact that the editor of the volume, Percy Ernst Schramm, did not think it neces sary to elaborate and comment upon these changes and what they meant for the overall credibility and authenticity of the text also testifies to the lack of source [...]”

[1] Hitler Redux, p. 103
09.04.202507:13
The bombing of churches was STRICTLY PROHIBITED during the Spanish Civil War

The bombing raid carried out by the German Legion Condor on April 26, 1937, as allied support for Franco's Nationalist forces, was not a planned terror act or "test," yet that idea continues to be repeated today. From an article based on interviews of participants and surviving documents of the Luftwaffe specifically an unpublished history of tire Legion Condor from the year 1940 by Alfred de Zayas, published in the Journal of the Bundeswehr in 1974, we leam the following:

An air attack at the bridge and road crossing east of Guernica was ordered. All Condor orders were strict that cities must be spared, and most especially churches. (Knowing this, the "Rojas" [Reds] stored ammunition in churches, blowing them up when they couldn't get it out). Only in special cases were military targets in cities permitted to be attacked. [1]


SOURCE:
[1] The Artist Within the Warlord: An Adolf Hitler You've Never Known, Page 80/81
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